Post Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:56 pm
 Subject: bokonon, bokonon

I recently read Cat's Crade for my English Literature class...when I played my James Taylor album (the vinyl, woot woot!) I was in fact startled to hear what seemed to be "bokonon, bokonon". Upon looking it up online, I found a site that claimed it was "broken heart, broken heart" (though the site left out most of the seemingly-improvisational lines, so I wasn't convinced in the least). It seems strange to think he would randomly reference Bokonon...though I must say, if it was a real religion, I would most likely convert immediately.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:48 pm
 Subject: OT on the OT

Payne, you know that if there is anything, and I mean anything that I can do for you or your family - all you have to do is ask Crying... .
Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:43 pm
 Subject: Germany was great!

What a beautiful country. First time out of the US and it was a great experience. I went for my son's wedding and I have to say we were well received by my daughter-in-laws family and friends. In fact, they made us feel very special (the Americans that had travelled so far). It was a very long trip and being Diabetic, that complicated things for me. The six hour time difference, the 8 hours trip from JFK, food change, partying (boy, they really know how to party); all that threw my system off. I came back with a cold, sore ribs and in pretty bad shape. It was worth it though.

Yes, Germany was also wet. We had some flooding problems and spent 5 hours on A8 moving 5 kilometers to get to an exit somewhere between Munich and Frankfurt. Then we were totally lost. Thank God for GPS we had in our rental car. We left at 9:30 that morning and got an hour from the airport at 12 midnight. What an adventure. Once we got here we saw parts of A8 under water on CNN.

It breaks my heart to see the devastation Katrina has caused. Talk about feeling useless - I wish there was something I could do (besides pray). You know, from what you said in your previous post, I probably would have made a good English major. I love reading, I also go on and on in my post, and I don't mind being abit "off". It's what makes me interesting (as you are and I enjoy reading your post even if it's not about the Ninjette).

Thanks for taking the time to explain the name thing. I always appreciate it when someone teaches me something new. I guess what I really am is an eternal student of life.

EDIT: I just checked out BrianM's post and see he was with Duke and the Iron Butt Tour, not sure where he was headed though.
Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:20 am
 Subject: That's right, Payne. There are no useless degrees...

Just useless people Shocked . I have, however, after 19 years of waiting tables and 3 of teaching, decided that I really want to be an auto mechanic. ("Gonna be a blue-collar man") And there just happens to be an SAE-certified community college program 5 minutes' walk up the road from my 'rents house in So. Oregon. So, as soon as I can get out of Taiwan (I say 1 year; the wife says 2) I believe, at age 43, that I've finally decided what I want to be when I grow up.
Thanks for the response and good riding. Bokonon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:11 am
 Subject: "Useless" English degrees

Kinda like math...a lot of folks look at me in bewilderment and say, "What can you do with that?" The answer...pretty much anything. People who excel in math are generally very analytical in thinking and perform well in many jobs. Back to the English degree - I used to work with a fellow who held a very senior and high-paying job with the sponsored programs department at USC. So, it's possible.

Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:52 pm
 Subject: Marylin: Was wondering where you were...

Glad to have you back. Hope it wasn't the chronic medical problems acting up, but sounds like it probably was. Hope you're much better now. Sorry you lost so much riding time.
The origins of my name are from a Kurt Vonnegut novel, Cat's Cradle. That's the thing with us English majors; we quote from books that most people have never heard of, much less read, and then hope someone gets it. English was seen (at least in the mid-80's), as an utterly useless degree. (A friend of my dad's told him that with that degree and a dollar I could get a ride on a cable car in San Francisco.) People who have utterly useless degrees feel they need to justify their education somehow. And we're usually just a bit off. We're the kind of folks who, while you were out getting a job, raising kids and living normal, productive lives, were sitting around gazing at our navels and pondering the Big Picture of Life, The Universe, and Everything.
English majorism also explains why my posts are always so long. I used to consider the first 2 pages of anything I wrote the Introduction.
So: How was Germany (besides wet)? Seems it's bad-weather week all around the world lately. We're having a typhoon here in Taiwan; the country basically shut down completely at 4 pm Wed. It's the third one this year, but our houses are all built from steel and concrete, because this is a normal thing in these parts. It's still inconvenient, and there is flooding at times, but nothing like those poor people in New Orleans.
Have fun reading, and good riding, Bokonon
So, you're back. Where's BrianM? Did I miss the memo that said he was going on vacation?
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:02 pm
 Subject: Re: Bokonon

Did I miss the answer about your user name? I don't get the English major thing - excuse us un-educated folks. I'm back after being sick for a week after returning from Germany. I have really missed alot and have alot to catch up to. I'll try to just read most post and not make a comment on each little thing although I have alot to say but not much to contribute (that will make a difference). Nice to see all the new people also. Rode the bike for the first time in 18 days. Am feeling much better now! Figured OT would be a good place to start Wry .
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:08 am
 Subject: Guess I'll just have to run right out to my local record shop....

here in Taiwan Smile Very Happy Mr. Green and get a copy. I'm not familiar with that particular song, although I've probably heard it. I usually know album titles more than song ones (70's child). I only know the name of one Led Zeppelin song, for instance, even though I've heard them all a thousand times.... Good riding, Bokonon
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:24 am
 Subject: James Taylor is what came to my mind as well

That's an awesome version of Steamroller.

Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:13 am
 Subject: Re: Bokonon

Whatever "bokka nine" means.... I still have trouble making out some of his lyrics, too. Another good site for lyrics is . It's a search engine that looks at lots of different sites for your song. And I still call them albums, too. There are 500 of them in the back of a closet at the 'rents Very Happy . Good listening, good reading, and good riding. Bokonon
Post Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:42 pm
 Subject: Re: Bokonon

I was thinking of James Taylor's live version of Steamroller on the Greatest Hits album, uh, I mean "CD" (pardon, but my age is showing). Embarrassingly, I looked up the lyric on a website and he is apparently saying "bokka nine". I thought he was saying "Bokonon". Perhaps he is and the website I was looking at had it wrong? Smile (
Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:41 pm
 Subject: Re: Bokonon

Answer B. I'm an English Major (well, 21 years ago, but it's like being a Marine: once an English Major, always an English Major.) Thought I should have a literary reference, and I love Kurt Vonnegut's cynical optimism.
BTW: Which JT song are you talking about? Bokonon
Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:48 pm
 Subject: Bokonon

Hey Bokonon,

Where did you get your username from? James Taylor? Cat's Cradle? ("No damn cat, no damn cradle.")

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