Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:38 am
 Subject: Riding Pants

Ok This forum has been very helpful with many of the questions i have had with riding. I plan on getting my first 250 with in the week (if things go well).While i wait i have been picking out gear that i would like to ride in. Jacket, pants,gloves etc. While searching i came across These Icon Strongarm Pants. They look like normal jeans but are for riding (what the description says) Has anyone had experience with riding pants like these. Love the way they look because they look like normal jeans, but if they provide no protection then whats the point.
Thank you for your help in advance.

oh and here is the link to the pants
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:58 am
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

(I didn't click the link, so...)

As long as they're kevlar lined they will offer some protection to road rash. There isn't any impact protection (i.e. padding to protect when you impact the ground/car/tree/postman, etc), so you'd just have to decide whether you prefer the additional armor or the jeans look.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:02 pm
 Subject: it says that the knees are reinforced thats about it.

Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:03 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

They have abrasion resistance in the knees, but that's it. "Complete" riding pants would have abrasion resistance in knees, hips, and butt, and have hard armor at least in the knees. I know someone who had a road-rashed butt... not fun. As always, you have to pick your comfort level with risk, but I'd say find something with armor. "Draggin' Jeans" are similar, but have more abrasion-resistant panels if you're looking for jeans to ride in. And yes, denim will most likely fall apart at anything over 15-20mph, so you really do need the reinforced areas.


PS: Check the vendor reviews on this site for RideGear.com. I had a bad experience with them too, although they made it right after about 3 weeks.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:08 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

Yeah i have read the reviews on that site, from what i have read i wouldnt buy anything from there. I will look up Draggin jeans. I think i might just have to hold a pair of these in my hands to see how comfortable i feel riding for the first time in them.

thank you
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:14 pm
 Subject: Every piece of riding gear is a compromise.

This one sacrifices protection in favor of looks.
Denim will tear very quickly when it comes in contact with asphalt, and these pants have no knee armor. Be aware that alhtough being better than plain jeans, these pants still offer very little crash/abrasion protection.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:26 pm
 Subject: Hood Jeans is a good source for real armored jeans

Have a look at http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk English family company, very nice, great service, solid product. Kevlar coverage is extensive, and the Knox armor is CE approved and comfy.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:59 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

there is an option for draggin jeans for knee armor. Not sure if its CE approved though. There are several reviews on webbikeworld.com about kevlar jeans and it discusses the armor in each. You might look there to get reviews on them before you purchase anything.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:29 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

I was thinking about getting those jeans. Except I also plan to get some Icon knee/shin armor and riding shorts to wear under them for more protection. Here's a link to those items:

Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:34 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

That is a very great idea just might steal it from you if you dont mind. thatnks for the advice.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:05 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

I appreciate your preference for the "jeans look", but I really think that the protection would be so much better with an "overpant" type garment. There are a good number of offerings out there at prices beginning around sixty or seventy dollars. For your money, you get ce armor at the knees, hip pads ( often with the ability to remove the pads and replace with ce armor there too.) and much more abrasion resistant textiles in the entire pant. When you get to your destination, just remove the overpants, and you'll be wearing your jeans anyway.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:39 pm
 Subject: Some good overpants

Olympia Airglide
Without the liner, mesh pants good for the summer. With the liner over normal pants, nice and warm at 30F. Easy to get on and off over boots. Don't get wet like jeans. Tight mesh, not the polyester fishnet in the cheap stuff. Worth the money.
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:47 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

fyi i just cancelled an order from ridegear.com i ordered a helmet for my girlfriend 4 weeks ago. they took my credit card but never got any info about order never got a helmet for 2 weeks. i called them and they said they had a back order and should ship this week. well that was 2 weeks ago. called today and this guy said it still hasent shipped so i cancelled it. still no emails from them i sent them 5 in that time. no response. i ordered my helmet from motorcycle superstore and got it in the same week. ridegear really sucks in my experience
Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:29 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

If your looking for over pants if you go with them instead of the jean types . try bikebandit.com i got mine ther pretty cheap or newenough.com they seem to have some good deals also.

bikebandit's service was great for me.

if I were going to go with the jeans look before i would pay $100 for them I would just buy me some cheap jeans and order the cordura material my self you can get it for like $10-$15 in 500 denier up to 1048 denier which is as good as dragin jeans has but you could sew it in your self or have it done possibley cheaper and get better coverage .
Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:01 am
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

Check out dragginjeans.com

Similar concept, look REALLy nice..

Heavy denim with kevlar in the butt and all around the knee...

Look a little more basic then some of the icon pairs and have lots of data backing how well they work...

Also check out their draggin liners... Kevlar liner that fits under jeans... Thats what I am likely going to get...

Lastly, I'd get the CE rated knee armour add-on, goes over the kevlar liner (more comfortable) and inside the standard jeans (have heard it feels weird but you get used to it fast when riding)...

Anyways, just thought I'd share another riding jean company.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:40 am
 Subject: +1 on Hood Jeans

Great product & people. Problem is the exchange rate on the dollar right now Sad

Old_and_slow wrote:
Have a look at http://www.hoodjeans.co.uk English family company, very nice, great service, solid product. Kevlar coverage is extensive, and the Knox armor is CE approved and comfy.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:54 am
 Subject: Icon gear

I can't say from personal experience... but i have been told that while Icon stuff looks great, it generally doesn't offer as much protection as others do.

My boss showed me some cargo pants he bought for his wife. They looked like normal cargo pants but they were Kevlar with knee, hip and back amour. They were BMW branded.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:51 pm
 Subject: Re: Icon gear

FuelCell wrote:
I can't say from personal experience... but i have been told that while Icon stuff looks great, it generally doesn't offer as much protection as others do.

I've heard similar accounts from other people that have had no personal experience with Icon gear. To me, it seems like they get a bad rep from people who think their gear is only for "squids" who are mainly concerned with looking cool. The Icon gear being discussed in this thread has very favorable reviews from people who have actually owned it. Obviously, I'm not going to trust my skin to either opinion, but rather try it out for myself and make up my own mind. I'd suggest others do the same.
Post Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:11 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

Cycleport kevlar jeans are nics, identicle protection as copared to their racing pants, but look like black jeans. The stretch kevlar is very thin and supple, they are barely thicler than jeans, except for the armor.

...a little pricy...
Post Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 am
 Subject: Anyone have experience with these Firstgear pants?

I want to find overpants to wear over my khakis on the way to work, and was looking at these:
I'd probably go for the armor upgrades while I'm at it. I have a Firstgear mesh jacket, seems like at the very least these pants would zip to it with minimal fuss...
Post Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:04 am
 Subject: I'll push the Olympia Airglides again...

...really first rate materials, including stock CE knee armor, with pockets to allow height adjustment. Easy to get on and off over boots (true of the Firstgear too, I should think). I use mine daily through 3 New England seasons. If you want to try them, MotoLiberty is a very nice company to work with (as is NewEnough, of course).

There doesn't seem to be a standard for zippers. I have Marsee jackets and Olympia pants. One zips from the right and the other zips from the left. At least they each come with both halves of the zipper, so you can sew the extra half to the other garment. On my to-do list... I can check the zipper on the Olympia pants if that's useful to you.
Post Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:07 am
 Subject: Re: I'll push the Olympia Airglides again...

I was looking at those Airglides, too (they seem to have some good reviews around the net), but I hadn't seen as much feedback on the Firstgears. I suppose it wouldn't kill me to do a little sewing.
Post Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:15 am
 Subject: Olympia zipper

Olympia zipper is a YKK Vislon molded tooth, with slider on jacket on left-hand side. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Post Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:48 pm
 Subject: Re: Anyone have experience with these Firstgear pants?

I've got the earlier version of the HT Air Overpants (version 1 rather than 2.0), and I love them. They are comfortable, real easy to get on and off, and seem to be holding up very well.

They seem to run a little large at the waist. I typically wear 31-32 jeans and got the 30 waist First Gears which fit fine over my regular clothes.

My only real complaint is there is no tall option for the small waist sizes. The length (rated at 31.5 and I usually wear a 32 jean) is fine when standing, but when riding they pull up above my fairly short boots. They probably would be fine with longer boots though.

The knee area can get hot in warm weather since it is solid fabric rather than mesh and has the padding, but I'm fine with it since it offers a bit of additional protection. I'm just using the standard padding which isn't great. I don't know how the optional armor would affect fit/use. I had tried the Fieldsheer Titanium-Air mesh pants (not overpants), and their CE armour made them pretty stiff and uncomfortable.

The wind proof liner makes them fine for me over regular pants down to ~45F. The leg zippers on the wind proof liner are a bit small which makes them a little slower to get up or down, but I usually don't bother zipping them anyway unless it is really cold. I haven't ridden with them in decent rain yet, but I would probably zip them for that as well. Both the pants and the liners have double zippers that can also go down from the top which makes it fairly easy to get stuff out of your side pants pockets as well. A way to access my back pants pocket to get my wallet would have been nice, but I just have to remember to swap it to the back pocket in the overpants if I'm going to need it.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:57 pm
 Subject: I have HT Air 2.0 Overpants.

The quality seems good, and New Enough's service was great. The first pair I got was missing a hip pocket (they velcro on), and New Enough replaced the pants and paid for shipping both ways.

I haven't used them much yet, but I like them so far. My pants seem pretty close to Zak's description of the non-2.0 version. I got the upgraded hip armor which is much denser, but still thin and flexible.

I definitely feel less protected in these than my upper body does in my leather jacket, but I'm sure it would be the same for any mesh product.

- John -
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:29 pm
 Subject: I have Draggin' Jeans with knee armor, and I like them.

I'm a little concerned about the knee armor staying in place during a crash as they don't attach very securely, but I'm sure they'll at least be there on the first hit, and that's probably the most important one.

I have the Relaxed version, and they're actually loose enough for me to wear over denim shorts, so sometimes I use them like overpants. They're a little heavier than regular jeans, but much lighter than my actual overpants.

Linda has the Classic fit and isn't comfortable wearing knee armor. Her pants are snug enough that when she bends her knee the armor presses too much on her kneecap . She's fine without the armor. I don't know how well the men's Classic works with knee armor, but mine are fine.

BTW, I have Draggin' Jeans from www.dragginjeans.com of the USA, not www.dragginjeans.com.au of Australia. They're two different companies that sell similar products.

- John -
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:22 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

From what I am reading they are just like any other pair of jeans but are reinforcer at the knees and seam's. If it were me I would rather buy a regular pair of jeans and save some money. Just my to cents.

Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:13 pm
 Subject: +1 On the HT 2.0 Air pants

I wore mine with the liner in 42 degree weather the other morning with jeans and was fine. I'm on my second season with this pair and they are holding up great.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:35 pm
 Subject: Re: I have Draggin' Jeans with knee armor, and I like them.

Thats why I think the kevlar liner may be more comfortable, armour goes over it instead of in direct contact with your leg...

Then you can wear jeans, pants (even shorts but then the liner shows Wink...) over it...

$150 intro price, seems like a lot but isnt rediculous and I can wear any jeans I want.
Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:42 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

I have one pair of Draggin jeans I wear every once in a while. The downside for me, is I am a very sweaty guy, and need to wash the jeans after each use. I think they would wear out sooner for that reason so I switched to overpants.
Also, I have read a number of slow speed, and no speed get offs where folks messed up their knee, that was another reason I swiched to overpants.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:53 am
 Subject: Re: Olympia zipper

Sounds like it might be the same zipper that's on my jacket.

I plan on using these as overpants - as far as sizing, should I get the same size waist as my normal jeans, or one size up? It sounds like there might be some adjustment possible in the waistband.
Post Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:08 am
 Subject: I'll have to give a +1 to olympia

I have both the airglide pants as well as the Ranger 2 pant and AST jacket. I tend to wear the Ranger 2 pants most of the time since they offer better protection.

If you can, try to find a BMW dealership, as they tend to stock these items.
Post Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:33 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

Hi all. After reading through this thread (and a few others-- hey search does work Wink ) I decided to give some of the reinforced jeans a try. After doing some more research and reading a lot of reviews I decided to get the Cortech brand jeans with leather in the rear end area and built-in removable knee pads.

First off, the quality of the jeans I got was pretty good. About as good as any levis or old navy jean that I would normally buy. It weight about 10lbs but other than that, you can't really tell that there's anything different about them (except maybe when you have the knee pads in).

I haven't had a chance to ride in them yet, but i wore them around the house yesterday and they are really comfortable. I can see after a couple washes (they are washable with the leather, just need to hang dry) and a little breaking in and they will fit perfectly. The fit is true to size (ie size 34 = 34).

The knee pads are comfortable to sit around in and I've read you don't notice them while you're riding and I would believe that, but they are kind of annoying if you are walking around in them because they hang lower than your knees when you are standing. The knee pads are in little pockets inside the pants and attached with velcro so they are not easy to get in and out.

Can't wait to give it a try this weekend.
Post Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:18 pm
 Subject: I also bought a pair - I like them so far

and I upgraded the armor (I'm wondering though, is is an aupgrade or just different) - I got it from Newenough.com
Post Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:41 pm
 Subject: Re: Riding Pants

As I see, this post is a lil bit outdated, but, I hope that I will find help here. I'm looking to buy a pair of motorcycle riding jeans and found a review on Pipeburn about Pandomoto motorcycle riding jeans. I'm thinking about buying this pair of jeans, however, haven't found any reviews about it. Maybe you have tested this brand?

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