andylawcc
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:37 am
 Subject: this you Matt?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150330582493867&set=a.10150330580658867.355831.115711343866&type=1&theater
mattwood1221
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:52 am
 Subject: It is!

You couldn't tell by the massively tall guy on a tiny ninja 250? Tongue

(I bought AJ's track bike)
andylawcc2
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:06 pm
 Subject: how was it?

like, how was it doing a track day on the same day those WSMC racers are "practicing." I see a lot of vendors.

and i only faintly recognized you cuz of the white Spartan suit ;p and I also thought you would be riding your Duc instead.... and that bike look somewhat familiar.... now all the puzzles and pieced together and solved Smile
mattwood1221
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:13 pm
 Subject: It was good

There were a lot of vendors there, and it seemed like a lot of people since they sold out of I think every group.

The bike didn't do as well as I had hoped, but I know what I need to do to it to get it up to where I want it. On the first session, still going slow and getting used to the bike I managed to scrape my boots twice! I wasn't leaning fully off yet, so that didn't help, but the smaller tires and the different suspension from my street ninja definitely reduced the cornering angle. Throughout the rest of the day I scraped 3 or 4 times more, even with fully leaning off, and that hasn't happened on my street ninja at all, so hopefully once I get it set up I can push it a bit harder. I know my body position isn't the greatest (mostly I can't get my knee out very far), but I am definitely leaning pretty far off.

My current to do list:
-GT501 front and rear (no grip complaints about the MT75s, they are just too small)
-stainless steel front brake line
-fox shock in the rear (either my street ninja or another one if I can find it)
-0.7 or 0.75 springs in the front (they are stock currently)
-stock pegs (current pegs look like they droop a little - not sure if it is the pegs or the rearsets)

It seemed like there was a huge range of riders in the C group this time - there were some sessions where I was constantly trying to pass someone, and others where I would be the one being passed. Unfortunately there was a crash in turn 2 (according to the diagram below, even though we were going the other way) late morning that spilled oil on the track, so the cleanup for that caused massive delays. C group only got 5 1/2 sessions out of the 8, so that kind of sucked. Throughout the day 4 riders crashed in that turn, and one of them was the guy parked next to me who didn't let his tires warm up before pushing it, so he high sided on the first lap of our session (second to last of the day). There's video of it too!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8pz1yGRxabw Go to 1:15 for the start of the action, and 3:30 for another angle from the bike that was behind him.

I do like the streets a lot better than the big track, especially with the ninja. Now that I have run it CCW, I want to do it the normal way, since I've heard it's a lot easier to run the normal direction.


andylawcc
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:29 pm
 Subject: the non-CCW / normal way makes a bit more "sense..."

it just "flows" better.. imo especially at the 4/5/6 chicanes. in CCW, blasting downhill onto the front straight coming out of 2, is not as fun as, coming out of the Skid Pad, blasting uphill through 1 and into 2. Most noobs would brake too hard on 1 and 2, so there's our chance to pass them there ;p

and sucks for the oil spill, I thought i had it bad when i lost one whole session.

and ya, SoW >>>> Big Willow Smile
andylawcc
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:39 pm
 Subject: now onto the to do list

1) ya, the MT75 is noticable smaller than the Diablo Scooters I had; however, i like the feel to it, it feels like the bike is noticably easier to flick left to right.
2) ya, i am looking into that oo
3) YOU STAY AWAY FROM MY FOX SHOCK YOU!! I HAVE BEEN EBAY HUNTING EVERYDAY AND NIGHT since August (actually, kinda gave up already, might get a SV650 soon... might..)
4) 0.7 - 0.75? is that enough? I have .8 and I am 190 without gear, and that's the recommendation from Rich at Sonicsprings. I have feel the springs could be a tad stiffer. but doesn't matter, i should be on a weight loss anyway ;p
5) if you happen to come across a woodcraft rearset, it is not as easy to install as FAQ indicate. It works, but don't expect straight-outta-box installation.
andylawcc
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:47 pm
 Subject: holy cow... awesome video...

and pretty quick editing he did, consider, that happened just yesterday. and he knows the guy behind him on the silver SV?

and are they running C group? that guy looks B group, but the two guy he passed looks C.
mattwood1221
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:41 pm
 Subject: Holy multiple post batman!! ;-)

To do list:
-MT75 flickability - considering my ninja is sooo much more flickable than my Ducati, and I'm really used to my street ninja at this point, I'll trade off for the height Wink
-Fox Shock - I was really lucky to find the one I have, so we'll see...
-Springs - I have 0.7 in my street ninja, and I really like the feel, so we'll see.
-Rearsets - currently there are some aftermarket pegs on with stock rearsets, so all I need is stock pegs.

The video:
The guy on the silver SV was parked right across from us, and he came over to show us the video. That is C group - like I said there was quite the variety of skill levels out there, and he was definitely a candidate for moving up to B.
andylawcc2
Post Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:06 pm
 Subject: hehe, there's simply too much to talk about.

AJinNoHills
Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:55 am
 Subject: Funny how 2 differnt riders feel about the same bike

I felt the bike was dialed in for me "just right" as they say. But I'm glad you got her out there and had fun.
mattwood1221
Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:17 pm
 Subject: Yeah, definitely interesting

Did you ever get leaned over enough to scrape your toes or pegs? I'm sure it depends on how your feet are on the pegs as well, but I think at least a couple times when I scraped the balls of my feet were fully (or at least mostly) on the pegs with my body off the bike.
Bokonon
Post Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm
 Subject: You might try slash cut pegs.

They might give you a little more clearance, at least until you get some taller tires on, get rearsets (I can hear your long legs crying already) or find a Fox. And they usually come in pretty colors (more important to some people than others Very Happy )

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_to_get_some_new_pegs

BrianM
Post Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:22 am
 Subject: Those are much hated by lots of serious track riders...

because they're put on by Noob/non serious riders to try and cover up for poor bike setup/riding. The biggest issue though, is that WHEN those riders go down, they now have weapons pointing up and down/spinning on their bike. Having played cornerworked for several years, I've seen a few people sliced open throug their leathers with these things. One was to the bone just above the knee and got tendons too.

There are some tech inspectors who won't pass those style pegs for use too. Best to avoid them.
mattwood1221
Post Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:01 am
 Subject: Thanks for the suggestion

Surprisingly I've never seen that article before, and I thought I had read all that is in the FAQ!

I'll probably spend my money on suspension and brakes before pegs and/or rearsets. If once I get it all set up and I'm still having problems (doubtful), I'll try the Jim Race method of cutting down the pegs.

Quote:
Footpegs: Cut down 1.5" from stock.


https://www.ninja250.org/Jim%20Race
Bokonon
Post Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:25 pm
 Subject: Zoix :shock: I knew they were sharp,

but I didn't realize how bad they were.

I had some for my CBR (it was all I could get) and didn't really like putting my calf down on it trying for the sidestand Neutral
AJinNoHills
Post Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:48 pm
 Subject: Never got even close to scraping anything.

ithaca00
Post Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:25 am
 Subject: Cut down/ground down from crashing. Either way works ;)


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